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Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Tuesday, December 09, 2003
 
11:52 AM

For your information if you need to contact someone within Gov. http://www.loukymetro.org/metrocall/


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Friday, December 05, 2003
 
08:47 AM

For everyones info. the cost for the project was 12 million dollars.


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Friday, December 05, 2003
 
08:44 AM

Well Old Louisville, your dream came true. 9th street ext. and Oak Street are now open.


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
Woody
 
 
Monday, December 01, 2003
 
02:30 PM

Announcement and Invitation; After 43 years of discussions,planning, and construction, the last phases of the 9th Street Roadway will become operational on Wednesday 3, December 2003. Location On Oak Street at 9th street. 2:00 P.M. Per Mr. Fink


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Tuesday, November 18, 2003
 
06:57 PM

Many years ago, home owners that put their homes on tour ,found that some people had put their cigarette's out on the home owners floors. I do not think the home owners let people touring smoke in their home. However you might check with the eating and drinking places . I think some of them do let you smoke.


 
Posted by a Louisville resident
 
 
 
Sunday, November 16, 2003
 
04:41 PM

Will the house tour be a smoke free event ?


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Sunday, November 16, 2003
 
03:59 PM

It would be nice if everyone would rake their leaves , and sweep their sidewalks before the house tour. Pick up litter.


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Sunday, November 16, 2003
 
02:53 PM

More affordable housing in the works for Old Louisville. Per the Mayor's speach.


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Friday, October 31, 2003
 
12:09 PM

Did you say ....... What House Tour ???? http://www.oldlouisville.com/Xmas/HouseTour.htm It is under events on the front page of this site .


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Friday, October 31, 2003
 
12:01 PM

Want to know what is going on in Old Louisville ? Subscribe to the Newsletter or read it at : http://www.oldlouisville.com/Newsletter/ or for those who left Old Louisville. Come back ! Take a drive on the new 9th street ext. you all waited 34 years to see. Oak street will be open soon. Better yet , come to the house tour in Dec. Come and see what is going on for yourself !


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Wednesday, October 29, 2003
 
08:33 AM

To find out what is going on in Old Louisville, is as simple as reading the Newsletter. We idiots as you would like to call us know to read the newsletter to see what is going on........I think that is why the webmaster post it each month...............But to you I am above name calling..........Happy Halloween !


 
Posted by a former Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Tuesday, October 28, 2003
 
11:39 PM

Who is the idiot who keeps spamming this page with all the links? Hey its cool that you know how to use the internet now. You should be proud of it. But don't bore everyone with links to cutsie hamster dances when people are wanting to read discussions about how things are going in Old Louisville. There was air in Old Louisville 2000 years ago, DONT put a link to it please! had scroll down several pages to find anything interesting on the OL topic. The webmaster should manage this board. Hey, is there a webmaster out there? Okay I take it back. Nice site.

Webmaster note:  Most of these posts have been removed as per our new moderated forum policy.  


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Monday, October 13, 2003
 
09:43 PM

Old Louisville is about living with real people .... some rich some poor. But all living with that reality. Rather then those close to poverty in the suburbs that are one credit card payment away from the big house we all call bankruptcy.


 
Posted by a former Old Louisville resident
 
Louis
 
Prop421@aol.com
 
Saturday, October 04, 2003
 
10:08 PM

Does anyone know what building stood on the south east corner of 6th & Main streets. It.s a parking lot now & has been for at least 45 years. I lived in that building for 2 years in 1952-53.


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Thursday, October 02, 2003
 
04:05 PM

You might go to : http://www.louisvillehistoricalleague.com


 
 
Callie Varner
 
cvarner@law.tulane.edu
 
Thursday, October 02, 2003
 
03:14 PM

I need your help. I am a former Louisville resident (who hopes to return soon) and a current law student at Tulane in New Orleans. I have been asigned a paper on the legal aspects of historical preservation and I would like to focus on examples and stories from Louisville, specifically Old Louisville. For example, the economic benefits and trends of histroic preservation, the battle to preserve a neighborhood, etc. However, I am not sure there is enough information out there for a complete paper. We have studied the Overton Park preservation example and the efforts to keep a highway out of the French Quarter, and I was thinking about topics along this line of thought. Is there anyone out there who can help me with ideas, research materials, contacts, sources? I would be very grateful to anyone's help! Thank you


 
 
 
 
Thursday, September 25, 2003
 
11:07 PM

am i reading what i think i am reading slumlords in old loui are not using licensed plumbers and they are getin away with it how bout electricians brick layers carpenters and the like


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Thursday, September 25, 2003
 
10:29 PM

Poor people are too scared to speak out, they do not want to be out on the street. In Kentucky they are prisoners of the slumlords, and to an inspections dept. that is there to protect them from harm. What is the point of having an inspection dept. If their only job is to sit in their vehicle until retirement time. In Kentucky there be a lot of that going on. O'well, it is your tax money that is paying these peoples wages. "While the slumlords live like kings ". It's like saying, stick-um-up. Without going to jail ! The poor of Kentucky might as well live in a labor camp. Is Hitler still alive ? Seems so in Kentucky.


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Thursday, September 25, 2003
 
09:55 PM

Wow! I am glad you said that. My entire family works construction. We beg for work and have fixed more buildings then any mgmt. company manages. I am aware of that dude. He had a guy go to a building one time to fix a pipe. The dude that did the work cut off a brass pipe and tried to fix it with a copper fitting. This is a message for the person that said he liked that Popham fela. Keep your fingers crossed your toilet dont blow up while your sitin on it. That Popham does not use licensed plumbers if he can get away with it and he do.....


 
Posted by a worker in Old Louisville
 
 
 
Thursday, September 25, 2003
 
09:29 PM

Fact is in Kentucky there are people ready to fix any building in Old Louisville. I am aware of the 5.00 per hour people he hires. In the name of his profit. Do you work for him ????? Unemployment is over 6% in Kentucky.


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Thursday, September 25, 2003
 
09:23 PM

I love living and working in Old Louisville. It has a fantastic historical charm. In response to the former Peterson Popham resident, I would have to disagree. I am a long term resident of Peterson Popham and I have to say I love it. Sure there have been times that I wanted something repaired a little faster, but doesn't everyone? What apartment can you find that is perfect? None. I have lived in old & new. You have the same problems no matter where you go. I can definitely see many positive changes happening for that company. The staff is very friendly and helpful. I think if you have a complaint about what was it?, slumming, you should have found a better area. Who are you to criticize? Have you ever managed several thousand apartments at the same time? I am sure you haven't. You have no idea how difficult it is to get something done to a landmarked building. (Which, by the way is most of their portfolio). Don't blame them. Talk to the Historical Society.


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Thursday, September 25, 2003
 
09:18 PM

I love living and working in Old Louisville. It has a fantastic historical charm. In response to the former Peterson Popham resident, I would have to disagree. I am a long term resident of Peterson Popham and I have to say I love it. Sure there have been times that I wanted something repaired a little faster, but doesn't everyone? What apartment can you find that is perfect? None. I have lived in old & new. You have the same problems no matter where you go. I can definitely see many positive changes happening for that company. The staff is very friendly and helpful. I think if you have a complaint about what was it?, slumming, you should have found a better area. Who are you to criticize? Have you ever managed several thousand apartments at the same time? I am sure you haven't. You have no idea how difficult it is to get something done to a landmarked building. (Which, by the way is most of their portfolio). Don't blame them. Talk to the Historical Society.


 
 
 
 
Wednesday, September 24, 2003
 
09:29 PM

I like Old Louisville, I like Kentucky. I like country ham. If you are a friend of someone that has a friend that can get you some of that pork in Kentucky you will truly become a rich man. For the rest of you pickled pigs feet will have to do !


 
Posted by a Louisville resident
 
 
 
Sunday, September 21, 2003
 
04:26 PM

Make all of the eateries , and B&B's in Old Louisville wireless. People today need a place to get on the internet while they eat. Old Louisville is historic ! But this is the 21'st century. People love their lap-tops ! In many cases they need them .


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Sunday, September 21, 2003
 
03:16 PM

Oak Street . When it opens ! "Just might be, the next big place to be seen." Prices of property on that street are unbelievable. I guess it is a few peoples secret. But seems a few might soon be cashing in..............


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Thursday, September 18, 2003
 
09:38 AM

I am new to Old Louisville. However I did watch the news before I moved here. I was told if I moved to the city, things would be convenient. Your city was also trying to clean up the air in Louisville. I would like to ask you , Why is it then I tried to get my drivers license for Louisville on main street only to find I had to drive to Bowman field to take my test. Drive to the vet to get my car tested at 22nd street, then drive to 5th and Jefferson st to the County Clerks office to get my plates, only to find a county police car and a city car parked at an expired meter ?????


 
Posted by a Louisville resident
 
 
 
Tuesday, September 16, 2003
 
01:25 PM

Old Louisville is not the problem, the problem is with a government that will not assist , and the mgmt. companies of the slum buildings . It is very rare that the City of Louisville will force a slumlord to do much of anything. The buildings that have been restored were restored by the people that truely call Old Louisville their home. That is on the rise.......... The other problem is that some of the slum buildings are owned by former politicians in Kentucky........... Some still work for City government today..................


 
Posted by a Louisville resident
 
 
 
Tuesday, September 16, 2003
 
01:14 PM

Even the government of Kentucky likes trash. They defeated the bottle bill , and many insist you be allowed to throw your cigarette butts in public domains. What does that have to do with Old Louisville.......... You will find these treasures everywhere you look. Thats not to mention the bourbon bottles..............But yes the residents do their best to pick up after the slumlords tenants and U of L students.


 
Posted by a former Old Louisville resident
 
Angela
 
 
Tuesday, September 16, 2003
 
10:53 AM

Why is it that on almost every message board people feel the need to be rude, close minded and obstructive to the purpose of the board? It is ridiculous. Yes, there are problems with Old Louisville (which, may I remind you, is the topic of this board) and also Kentucky in general, but it is ridiculous for someone who merely passed through to think that they have the definitive picture of what the city has to offer. I lived in Louisville for 5 years and when I finish my degree I will be moving back! Louisville has the largest restored Victorian district in the United States, a huge performing arts scene (KY Opera, Louisville Ballet, Louisville Orchestra, Broadway Series, StageOne Children's Theater, Actor's Theater of Louisville etc.), some of the finest restaurants in the Midwest and possibly the country, wonderful locally owned coffeehouses, an active live music scene, great shopping, plenty of health food stores, and did I mention GREAT architecture? It makes me wonder, when you spent whatever time you spent in Louisville, where did you spend it? Because there is obviously so much more to the city than you have experienced. And when you saw trash, did you ever consider being a good person and a helpful individual by picking it up?!


Saturday, September 13, 2003
 
09:13 PM

Just a P.S. to the last. You must have some good jobs there. A few come to Kentucky to play. "Who,wants to be a millionaire" ????? Wake up people ! Your trash has blinded you..... If people are going to spend your money , should you too not have a nice place, and good education for yourself as well as your families ? Oh ! I forgot. In your state, all I have to do is cry to pull the wool over your eyes.............


 
 
 
 
Saturday, September 13, 2003
 
08:56 PM

I noticed that a person got mad at me for saying something is wrong with Kentucky and it's education. I would like to ask that person ........ Why do your college heads, and politicians , come to Kentucky for a job. "Only to exit your State" upon the end of their term ? Why do so many of the people of your state after being educated exit your state ? It is only a question !


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Friday, September 12, 2003
 
03:54 PM

Old Louisville as well as the rest of Kentucky has a lot to share with people around the world. Fact is tourism creates jobs. Slumlords do not ! It is time for all of us to take control of our state and not let those who would drain the very blood of our forfathers and what they try to build only to abandon our state after they have finished draining our minds and wallets.


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Tuesday, September 09, 2003
 
02:20 PM

Well I do have a question................Does this guy Peterson Popham Mgmt. company own the City Of Louisville Inspections Dept. ?????? As a former tenant I can not believe what this guy gets away with. Talk about living in a trash pile. Even the poorest of the poor in Mexico that live in trash piles live better than the buildings he manages. Maybe this will be the next big bribe story!!!!!


 
Posted by a former Old Louisville resident
 
Angela Clark-Praxis
 
toomuchcoffee@earthlink.net
 
Tuesday, September 09, 2003
 
02:50 AM

I knew that Louisville was wonderful when I lived there, but only by moving away have I truly been able to appreciate how amazing the city truly is! Most Louisvillians have no idea how much there is to do and what there is to be proud of in their city. Believe me, just spend six months anywhere else and you'll know you are a Louisvillian at heart. Falling in love with Old Louisville is what made me decide to move there. It is also what made me decide to earn my degree in Historic Preservation. It sounds cliche to say it but Old Louisville changed the path my life was taking. It changed my life. Now I hope to return the favor, when I graduate I am moving back and hope to lovingly preserve and restore those buildings that made such an impact on me. As far as reaching its potential, no way, there is so much more that could be done, so many houses to restore, so many cafes and shops that could be opened. Not until everyone in Old Louisville is walking down the clean streets past beautifully restored homes to the corner shop and finding everything they need within walking distance will I say that the potential has been met. But the potential is there nonetheless!


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Monday, September 08, 2003
 
05:42 PM

Old Louisville has people from all over the world living here as well as in the entire city. Why is it then that we only find signs in the English language? If you travel to other countries their signs are in several different languages. It would be a good way for us to learn a new language as well as to teach others English.


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Thursday, August 28, 2003
 
10:28 PM

By the way recently a girl won $100,000 from a bottle cap. I saw it on the news....I think it was a D/P bottle. Will you be the next person that decided to throw that bottle out worth $100,000. Yep! I be pickin me up some trash. That bottle you threw away just might be worth some cash!!


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Thursday, August 28, 2003
 
09:53 PM

Today I went out and decided after seeing some of these postings that I could help. I went out and started picking up some trash. A couple of guys came up to me and asked if I had seen an envelope that contained a contract and a check...... At that time I had not yet found anything. I then walked up the block just a few feet and found a folder, across the street I found a check...and a contract. The people were glad that I had taken the time to try to do something positive. Turned out the check was for some work being done to a building in Old Louisville . Next time you decide not to do something positive for your community, remember next time that check could be yours that blew out the window............. I guess some would rather it got wet, ended up in the drain. By the way it rained Thursday, I found it just before the rain began. What if it was your check???? What if someone else would have cashed it before you could cancel it ???


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
Steve Magruder (stevemagruder.com)
 
steve@stevemagruder.com
 
Thursday, August 28, 2003
 
01:55 PM

Somebody asked about "wi-fi". My sources say that the new Central Park Cafe on Ormsby (tween 3rd and 4th) offers it.


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Monday, August 25, 2003
 
12:39 PM

I have noticed that some people like to play their radios loud in Old Louisville while driving. I take it they are looking for some attention. Fact is ,they do get people to look at them. Most of us are thinking these poor people must not even have a grade school diploma. Our next thought is . How much will this person have to pay for their ear surgery in later years ? If they will be able to hear at all.....


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Thursday, August 21, 2003
 
07:56 AM

What was done with the $450,000 that was to be given for sidewalk repairs in Old Louisville ??? I see some repairs ! Are they finished???? By the way I like the new 9th street ext. I guess Oak street will be open soon. Who is in charge of all of the plantings trees etc? Did the City and State take bids on it ? I was told that someone that is a volunteer in Old Louisville got the job. Doing it for free I take it ?????


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Wednesday, August 20, 2003
 
07:50 PM

To the person or persons that said there are no people living in trash piles in Kentucky . You might want to go out with some of us in the winter time and take a good look under the over pass at Floyd between Oak and St. Catherine. Talk to a few of the people in the homeless shelters. Some day we all need to face reality instead of hiding from it. Kentucky is only as good as is any state is to those who have minds that work and money in their pocket. It is better to be a part of the solution rather than contribute to the problem. Being able to solve problems is what education is all about. I am sure that a few of the homless would have enjoyed the scraps from the fine meals the former U of L president was eating. Looks like to me he was having a great time at the expence of the students that he should have been educating. We all ,that have gone to college know sometimes that spam we had to eat was not very tasty. At least not if you had to eat it every day. Maybe we can now understand the point of keeping people in Kentucky out of the spotlight. A few seem to be eating very well off of those that live in poverty in Kentucky. Many of you are students . One paycheck from that overpass in Old Louisville.


 
Posted by a visitor to Old Louisville
 
 
 
Wednesday, August 20, 2003
 
11:45 AM

My family and I have been to Old Louisville and Lexington Kentucky. You have a beautiful state. However you do have a trash problem as we have seen it in many places along the road . I have only one question. If God created heaven and earth and has given you such a beautiful state why on earth would you not want to keep it as clean as it was when God created it for you ? May God keep you in his hands. May God give you the mind and hands to keep the land pure. Amen.


 
Posted by a Louisville resident
 
 
 
Wednesday, August 20, 2003
 
09:00 AM

My father has a farm. He too has a problem with people throwing trash out their car windows while driving. I think people forgot that your food does not come from the refrigerator and their drinking water does not come from your sink. Your food comes from the ground that you throw your trash on. Your drinking water comes from the same place you throw your trash into. It is also the same water you pee and poop in. The next time you throw your trash on the ground or take that next drink of water you might want to think about that. What you throw away if not properly delt with will re-enter your body. Just as the oil that drips from your car , will re-enter your drinking water. When it rains trash is sent into the drains , then back to the river. The river you get your drinking water from.


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Tuesday, August 19, 2003
 
06:16 PM

I do live in Old Louisville. Several decades as a matter of fact. To your question. I spend money there and help pick up trash while visiting there. Did so just last week! Because some of us are tired of our pride being broken by those who just don't give a d--n. You just said what I thought most might. Ignore it change the subject and it will just go away. Sorry I just went to mow my grass. Had to fill a five pound plaster bucket with trash before I could even start. Thank you for your support Kentucky!!!!!


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Tuesday, August 19, 2003
 
05:19 PM

Oh for God's sake- get a life. What are YOU doing for the Appalachian nation?! That's what I thought. Unless you LIVE in Old Louisville- don't talk about affording squat. Can't you read that college people and home-owners alike live there? Get a new topic!!!!!!!!!


 
 
 
 
Tuesday, August 19, 2003
 
03:37 PM

You have never lived in the Eastern part of Kentucky I take it ! Maybe some day you need to go take a tour...... Just a thought !!! You have no idea of true poverty if you can afford to live in Old Louisville. Some do not even have indoor plumbing yet. Let alone being able to afford trash pick-up.


 
 
 
 
Tuesday, August 19, 2003
 
03:25 PM

No one is talking about you dude- read the message board to find out where you got displaced in this conversation. We all know trash is a problem and it's all around. Yes, yes, yes. But there are no "people living in trash piles", like the drama queen who does not live in this state nor care about it has mentioned.


 
 
 
 
Tuesday, August 19, 2003
 
03:11 PM

Fact is I do live here. Also went to college. I do not have a problem with Kentucky, but rather the fact Kentucky is being distroyed by the people that live here. I also teach firearm safety and archery, and respect for the land that feeds me. Trash in a street drain will only flood your car and home when it rains. If you love Kentucky then respect the ground that you walk on. Crops do not grow in a trash pile. If you are going to college I salute you!!!! But if you are going to throw your trash in the street of America......You also spit in the face of those that are proud to be Americans.......Go see the trash that flows from Cumberland Falls in a heavy rain. Then go see the trash that is at the edge of your drinking water at the edge of the Ohio. Then come back and tell me there are no trash piles in Kentucky.......


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Tuesday, August 19, 2003
 
02:11 PM

You're not bringing an epiphany into this board site bud. I live near U of L- and I know about the trash. It's a problem, but so it is in every downtown campus communciaty. No one is living in PILES of it, by the way. If you dislike KY and Louisville so much, what do you care about the trash, education, or anything else about the area? Bet you got your heart broken by some guy here and just can't let it go huh?


 
 
 
 
Tuesday, August 19, 2003
 
02:07 PM

Right- trash is a problem- DUH. Everyone knows that. But people living in PILES of TRASH is a little dramatic. Come ON. Especially from some nerd with nothing better to do than condemn KY when he doesn't even live here. Get a grip.


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Tuesday, August 19, 2003
 
01:53 PM

Better yet go to one of the clean-ups that are put on by the good people of Old Louisville at the Information center in Central park or go to one of their meetings. Trash is in fact one hot topic !!!!!! Also the state started installing cameras to catch people in the act of illegal dumping out in the country .IN KENTUCKY.


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Tuesday, August 19, 2003
 
01:46 PM

You my friend must not have eyes to see. As the reason for the bottle bill that the folks in Frankfort were voting on was to clean up the trash in Kentucky. If trash was not a problem why was there a bottle bill to vote on. WANT TO FIND SOME TRASH IN KENTUCKY. Drive around the outer edge of U of L .


 
Posted by a Louisville resident
 
 
 
Tuesday, August 19, 2003
 
01:24 PM

You've seen people living in PILES of TRASH in Kentucky? Wow, I've lived here half my life and have never seen that. Were you visiting family? And if you HATE KY so much, you freak, why in the WORLD are you on an Old Louisville message board? Board and angry at the world huh? Anger management does wonders for people like you.


 
Posted by a Louisville resident
 
 
 
Tuesday, August 19, 2003
 
01:20 PM

You've seen people living in PILES of TRASH in Kentucky? Wow, I've lived here half my life and have never seen that. Were you visiting family? And if you HATE KY so much, you freak, why in the WORLD are you on an Old Louisville message board? Board and angry at the world huh? Anger management does wonders for people like you.


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Tuesday, August 19, 2003
 
01:18 PM

I agree, I see people I know are students at U of L cleaning out their cars in front of peoples houses in Old Louisville. Then they set it out on the curb for the home owners to clean it up. During their parties their friends just dump their beer cans and drink cups all over the sidewalk and street.


 
 
 
 
Tuesday, August 19, 2003
 
12:30 PM

By the way when you go to get a job with your KENTUCKY diploma ........... remember all the rankings by people that teach and own business rank KENTUCKY at the bottom it is all over the computer sites compairing Kentucky to other states. I did not do it ........... you so called educated people wrote the stats.......Goof Ball....


 
 
 
 
Tuesday, August 19, 2003
 
12:22 PM

Glad you found them............Most in KENTUCKY will not. Look at the trash on the street and tell me how much pride Kentucky has...........Goof Ball???? I do not live in trash piles like you do in Kentucky.....


 
 
 
 
Tuesday, August 19, 2003
 
11:27 AM

Oh, and bumper stickers don't "SAY" anything, goofball...


 
 
 
 
Tuesday, August 19, 2003
 
09:56 AM

You can UNDERSTANT it, huh? Nice :-) Don't point fingers cool guy, until you are flawless. There are village idiots in every village, and you just became the village idiot of this board by preaching about poor education and making several mispellings in your rant. You too- get a life.


 
 
 
 
Monday, August 18, 2003
 
11:58 PM

The guy in the Toyata pickup was eating at TACO BELL of all things.......I can understant it however........ He is a student at U of L....saw his bumber sticker...... His plate on his bumper also said KENTUCKY............


 
 
 
 
Monday, August 18, 2003
 
11:53 PM

By the way.......we have the stats .....use your computer to look them up.........Kentucky ranks about last in everything.............even people in Mexico can speak some English. We eat at Taco Bell and can not speak Spanish......Ask yourself??? Who is the village idiot????? The other day I saw a guy tell an American that looked Oriental ...... Go back to China....While he the one that made the gesture drove off in his TOYOTA pickup..........


 
 
 
 
Monday, August 18, 2003
 
11:43 PM

Kentucky still ranks at the bottom when it comes to education.......Need any of us say anymore............. People in Kentucky spend $2000.00 on a machine to talk about a bar............. Not that they learned how to use it to get educated.........What is the reason??? This is Kentucky...... The only place in the world where people purchase a machine to hit each other in the head with it... Sort of reminds me of ape and evolution. People in Kentucky have no clue.........Thats O.K. people from around the world come to Kentucky to enjoy what the rest of the world considers as going to the zoo!!!!


 
Posted by a Louisville resident
 
 
 
Monday, August 18, 2003
 
11:37 PM

If you have to get on the Old Louisville.com message board to fight about the Mag Bar for a few months- you need desperately something better to do. Yes, we could use some more constructive commentary. Look at the venue of this board- is it for bettering Old Louisville- events, neighborhoods and area? To make it more fun and start cool new things? Or is it here to cry like babies over hurt feelings and a BAR. A BAAAAAR. And psychotic ranting about how everyone hates student. Truly, call a friend or something because- WOW.


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Monday, August 18, 2003
 
11:32 PM

Whatever Diggler. Freak show. Get a life.


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Monday, August 18, 2003
 
09:47 PM

You talk about stuff that should apply to yourself. As for your comment about 6th graders, I think they write better than you do. Talking about moving on, listening to you pick on each and every topic in one paragraph is more annoying then the discussions themselves. Do you have a job? I can just tell you're a brain suregon by day, aren't you? I feel like sometimes I am living in Seasame Street, and these fruitcakes around me need a topic of the day to keep from fighting on this message board. What would your momma think if she only knew? If we can't be concerned with topics such as the Mag Bar without fighting, what makes you think talking about the dull subject of connections with renter's and owner's will prove a result? I don't(maybe others will) see an issue with that topic. It might put everyone to sleep and well, end the arguing. However, I hope your on the phone to your mother because your message just went airmail into the recycling bin. I am trying to round up one of those 6th graders to explain it to me.


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Monday, August 18, 2003
 
06:02 PM

All- seriously, get a job, or a hobby. Especially Diggler. You've been bit#$*#*ing since, what now- several months ago..? If you moved out of Old Louisville [and are very obviously bitter about the people here], then LET IT GO man! Move ON! No one needs or wants to know your bitterness on this detailed a level and I cannot IMAGINE you thinking anyone truly cares. Every single person ON this board who is pointing a finger over personal issues- Old Louisville resident or not- (especially the ones who cannot let them go or are STILL talking about the Mag Bar- for GOD's SAKE!!) is JUST as biased and bigotted as the person they're accusing- look at these slanted comments? Seriously- go out and get some fresh air, or get a pet, or get a volunteer job, but really- WHO CARES about this crap?!!? Let's talk about something worth while- like how to improve the hood or add value? Book clubs? Jogging clubs? Volunteer opps. for us in the surrouding areas? How to save and preserve more historic buildings and homes? How to make connections with renter's and owner's of all ages in our super community? This other stuff for the 6th grade. And unless you ARE in the 6th grade- you should be ashamed, because your classmates are much more well-rounded and psychologically intact than you are. Unless you have an issue that can be addressed with an attempt to resolve based on logic on this board, something that makes a diference- an IMPROVEMENT on a community-level, than save your chatter for phone calls to your mother!


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Tuesday, August 12, 2003
 
05:30 PM

There might be a worm attack on computers using windows . Go to http://www.microsoft.com to download the patch.,or go to windows update .


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Monday, August 11, 2003
 
10:09 PM

As a new person to Kentucky and Louisville,Old Louisville that is. Thanks,for your forum page! My family wanted to come to visit me, as I will be a student here this year.They asked me if there was anything to do in Kentucky. Your B&B's sound good to keep them out of my hair when they come. Looks like you have a lot more things to do than I thought. Thank you people for your input..............


 
Posted by a visitor to Old Louisville
 
 
 
Sunday, August 10, 2003
 
09:47 AM

I enjoyed my vacation in Kentucky this year,thanks to http://www.oldlouisville.com then off to http://www.visitlex.com and also http://www.state.ky.us/agencies/parks/cumbfal2.htm Thank all of you for the information! Hope to be back next year to see the Derby.


 
Posted by a Louisville resident
 
 
 
Friday, August 08, 2003
 
12:53 PM

You do not need to look very far in the U.S. to find how people live in a third world country. You only need to move to the STATE of Kentucky.


 
 
nellie
 
Nanciewitt@msn.com
 
Wednesday, August 06, 2003
 
03:46 PM

My name is Nellie claudia witt My mother was nellie claudia Taylor born in louisville Kentucky Her Mothers last name was Apple gate Her father was John Presely Taylor I would like to know moer about them Zachary Taylors birth was in our old family bible


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Tuesday, August 05, 2003
 
09:33 AM

In Old Louisville it would be nice if the City Inspections Department would actually enforce their code laws on Slum Lords rather than just walking around the building with a radio and uniform and pretending that they are inspecting the building. It is a waste of taxpayer money and it is very rare that you actually see any of these slumlords being forced to do much of anything by the City. Sort of like giving tickets to City workers for parking in places we all would get a ticket for. By the way City vehicles do park in crosswalks in Old Louisville too. Sure they will!!!!


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Monday, August 04, 2003
 
05:37 PM

Those who come to Old Louisville looking for a life in a bar will only do as my friends did. Die of Old Age,Aids and lonliness. Old Louisville is but a neighborhood to come meet new friends, sleep,and take a walk. No neighborhood is a place to spend your entire life. Even the Victorians spent their lives traveling around the world to furnish their home. Meet new friends and take a walk. The walk we all call life.....


 
Posted by a Louisville resident
 
 
 
Sunday, August 03, 2003
 
01:21 PM

I agree! The students that come to Old Louisville that only came there to party instead of receiving a diploma have lost their ,http://www.metaphor.dk/guillotine/Pages/Guillot.html


 
Posted by a former Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Saturday, August 02, 2003
 
12:04 PM

If you serve liquor to anyone under the age of 21 in Kentucky. Kiss your diploma good-bye! Because you will go to jail.


 
Posted by a Louisville resident
 
 
 
Saturday, August 02, 2003
 
12:00 PM

Many people are not aware of law. In many places, if you invite guest. You the one that invited them asume the risk of any damage done by your guest and or persons that may be harmed by your guest. If one of your guest does damage to a neighbors property, you can be held accountable . If someone is hospitalized you just might want to kiss your life savings good-bye!


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Saturday, August 02, 2003
 
10:13 AM

For all parents: Your child goes to school to learn. If your kid goes to college for four years but gets AIDS as a freshman. They might only have six years left to use their education before they die. You might want to educate yourself and your child before it is to late. Liquor will only alter your mind into thinking you are invincible. Fact is you are not! What does this have to do with Old Louisville??? Your kids live off campus where there are no rules. They left home to party. Today that is as deadly as sending them out the front door with a loaded gun.


 
Posted by a Louisville resident
 
 
 
Saturday, August 02, 2003
 
08:36 AM

As a parent of a person going to U of L , I want to thank you for these postings. It gives me an idea of what to expect. I would be happy to pay for one of these tapes if my child is hurt while going to school. It might come in handy to see who I would have to sue wether it be the school or a student that would lure my child into a dangerous situation. Again thank you! I too as a parent will keep an extra eye open.


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Friday, August 01, 2003
 
01:31 PM

Your tape or pictures of a crime or something news worthy could be worth hundreds if not thousands of $'s to the media or police.


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Friday, August 01, 2003
 
11:32 AM

Block party will spotlight neighborhood crime defense. See the Friday c/j . It will take place at 4th and Magnolia in Central Park on Tuesday 7-9 P.M. to draw attention to National Night Out. The event is free including food,refreshments and games. Louisville-Jefferson County Metro Government is holding the party. Hope to see all of you there!


 
Posted by an Old Louisville resident
 
 
 
Friday, August 01, 2003
 
11:21 AM

Cameras at all intersections in and around the city.


 

Thursday, July 31, 2003
 
08:49 PM

Slumlords like spelling can be hazordus to your well being.......... Is your lanlord as careless as ower spellling???????


 
 
 
 
Thursday, July 31, 2003
 
08:46 PM

Does your roof leak,is their mold???? Lead paint pealing inside outside????? Did it make your kids sick??? Check the laws that landlords must follow. If they do not abide by the law you might want to see if a lawyer can assist you. School starts soon. Is your apartment safe???????


Thursday, July 31, 2003
08:21 PM

If someone is being paid to paint the bridge there should be no one that should have to pay for the bribe. It is time to clean up the mess left behind by those of the past. Smile slumlords, we have tenants moving in. They are wireless .


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Thursday, July 31, 2003
06:09 PM

There is only one way to deal with slumlords. No poor or rich people should ever have to bow to them. List them and make sure everyone is aware of where they are. Make sure that others do not rent from them.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Thursday, July 31, 2003
02:05 PM

I went to an auction one time downtown several years ago. Saw the bank got the building back for $ 56,000. Two African Americans had bid $55,000. Later it went to Mr.P for $35,000. It was then sold to a friend . I just found it was interesting since I was going to bid on it up to $50,000.


Posted by a former Old Louisville resident
Thursday, July 31, 2003
01:16 PM

Hey kids, many years ago i bought a building in the 1970's for $17,000.00 on third street. I sold it for over $360,000 + about 5 years ago. I saw it is back up for $800,000. Sounds like to me that some wish they never left. I am sure the ones that did would find it was now too expensive to move back there. At these prices I am sorry I left.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Thursday, July 31, 2003
01:08 PM

On campus housing will help. Parking garages would also help. U of L it seems is more willing to listen these days. But it is up to the city to enforce code and site people. For too long the city ignored Old Louisville. Thanks to the Former Mr. Armstrong things have changed some.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Thursday, July 31, 2003
12:58 PM

We all need to remember one thing. Any mgmt company that has a friend in the realistate business it is good for business to run the property owners out . They not only get a building to sell. They many times get to sell you another one. Sort of like churches saying if you do not go and put your money in the box at the door the devil gona get ya. As they drive off in their stretch limo . Seems to me we need to all go back to school. Cause the smart man done run off with your wallet.


Posted by a former Old Louisville resident
Dirk Diggler
Thursday, July 31, 2003
12:55 PM

You know, that is my whole point. A few bad apples on both sides have ruined the whole deal. As long as U of L and Old Louisville share a border, I think it would be best to be good neighbors. Working to harbor a mutually friendly situation is not hard. Clear communication and mutual respect can go a long way.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Thursday, July 31, 2003
12:40 PM

Yes, Dirk may have a point or two. I've been living here for over 20 years. I can probably name the two or three dozen 'unfriendly' people he's talking about. Seems like they have nothing to do but go to meetings, meetings which they arguably prefer to be a closed clique. They have a few more part-time followers. Still, remember the 17000 or so residents of the neighborhood, I think most of them have little problem. Personally, I always thought living next door to a major university helps put some life into the area. For the most part the students are very nice, just as most of the permanent residents of Old Louisville that I know. Okay, so we get some loud Saturday night student parties in season. I expected that when I moved here. A lot of them look like fun. Trouble is, for the students, it only takes one complainer on a block to call the police and close a party down. The rest of the residents may have no objection at all. I have seen this even on some relatively quiet gatherings, a soft jazz party comes to mind, and it doesn't make much sense, especially when it's on one of those nights when the UPS jets choose this route to the airport. Where I would draw the line is on the destructive groups. That not only includes one or two Greek houses in the past, for whose actions many others have suffered in various ways, but those problem absentee landlord buildings, especially any building, it seems, managed by Peterson-Popham.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Thursday, July 31, 2003
12:30 PM

I like the old saying. "I would never think that this would have happened to me." I wish you luck in the future!


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Thursday, July 31, 2003
12:26 PM

What is amusing to me as a former police officer is the fact that anyone that thinks that crime can not come to their neighborhood since the invention of the automobile is beyond me.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Thursday, July 31, 2003
12:22 PM

It was on T.V. and in the News Paper this week mr. student. The rape at wku was on noon T.V. today.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Thursday, July 31, 2003
12:20 PM

You might want to put cameras up around your property like we have,the State ,City,banks,malls,and every person on the planet has. That is how they catch people in the act. Police can not be everywhere. However cameras can be. But when I said sorry I ment that. When I lived in the burbs my house got broken into three times. My vehicles had the radios and cb radios stolen over 10 times. Yep in the burbs. I have the police reports to prove it.


Posted by a former Old Louisville resident
Dirk Diggler
Thursday, July 31, 2003
12:13 PM

East end? Wow, more baseless assumptions. Like Old Louisville doesn't have its fair share of crack houses anyway So you can better target your accusations, I live in Camp Taylor, another of Louisville's historic neighborhoods. Decidedly safer than yours, perhaps lacking the Victorian splendor, but historic nonetheless. I hope this feedback forum is as amusing for you as it is for me!


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Thursday, July 31, 2003
12:04 PM

Sorry! we were in the East end watching the drug bust.


Posted by a former Old Louisville resident
Dirk Diggler
Thursday, July 31, 2003
11:58 AM

You're watching, eh? Well, why then weren't you watching when my car got broken into twice, my friend robbed, or any of the other countless crimes in your vaunted and much hyped ghetto? Oh, thats right your too busy being anti-student.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Thursday, July 31, 2003
11:47 AM

Glad you were watching. We are.


Posted by a former Old Louisville resident
Dirk Diggler
Thursday, July 31, 2003
11:29 AM

Ha! You guys friggin' kill me! Video tape me, record me, put my face on posters, I have nothing to hide. You have just proven my point. You lump all students together and make accusations based on a few examples. 'Fine educated individuals" call this the fallacy of division. Furthermore, you assumed I was Greek, we call that one argumentum ad hominem circumstantial. All I asked for was tolerance and an atmosphere of mutual respect. Although, I have no children, I am a property owner. I find that communication and respect with my tenant resolves many problems. But I like your idea about taping them and then using that tape for blackmail. Your neighborhood may full of beautiful buildings but it is haunted by many ugly attitudes and stereotypes. ---- "It is fun for the students to distroy(sic) Old Louisville only to move off and not care about the lives of others they distroyed (sic). The neet (sic) thing is that one day they will too become property owners and have children." -Thanks for the accusation, buy a dictionary, fool. ---- "Might be wise to hold onto them and show them later when all of you fine folks get a position of respect." - This fine folk is in a position of respect, 24 and I own my own business and a rental property. Perhaps one day I'll buy one of your vaunted houses and subdivide it to apartments for students. Would that suffice to "put my money where my mouth is"? ---- "Maybe your parents and future bosses would like to see what you really are like." - You threaten damaging my work and my FAMILY? Who do you think you are? Have you no respect or decency? Luckily, my partners are Greek, and my family, well, my family loves me ;), big bacchanalistic parties and all. ----


Thursday, July 31, 2003
11:10 AM

I would like to see some of these tapes. Call it surprise your on student party video in Old Louisville. "Busted". Who said those people in Old Louisville are stupid? "Wow" those tapes could be worth a fortune one day.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Thursday, July 31, 2003
10:36 AM

Funny thing is I might already have video taped one of your fine parties. Maybe your parents and future bosses would like to see what you really are like. That is the advantage of living next to a group of students.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Thursday, July 31, 2003
10:28 AM

Better yet put your money where your mouth is. Buy a building and spent a few hundred thousand grand and a third of your life renovating one of these places then I will find a building next to you and fill it full of so called fine educated individuals. I live next to a group of these folks. Maybe I need to video tape them and post these videos on the net. Might be wise to hold onto them and show them later when all of you fine folks get a position of respect.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Thursday, July 31, 2003
10:12 AM

We must never forget,at one time U of L was going to tear apart Old Louisville. Some not all of it's students like to party all night with no respect for the people that must go to work the next day. It is fun for the students to distroy Old Louisville only to move off and not care about the lives of others they distroyed. The neet thing is that one day they will too become property owners and have children. Only then will they get their next lesson. Do unto others AS YOU WOULD HAVE OTHERS DO UNTO YOU.


Posted by a former Old Louisville resident
Dirk Diggler
Thursday, July 31, 2003
09:19 AM

Okay, I lived in Old Louisville for 5 years during my college career so I may know a little about the neighborhood. (5 years for a BS and 2 minors, not due to slacking) I love Old Louisville. The memories I built there will last me a lifetime. Silent snowy nights in a Victorian garden, walks down a rainy 4th Street, running, leaves crunching as I feel the clock push me to lateness for an exam, studying, looking outside at a beautiful afternoon, walking around central park with a girl I loved, these are some of the cherish moments I shared with the Victorian jewel that is Old Louisville. Why then has this board been a place where my diatribes been spilled? Simply, the people of Old Louisville are mean and nasty. I'll spare you the names and faces of the anti student jihad, but they exist. Their vaunted neighborhood to them is a museum, with velvet ropes and gloved hands. As old and beautiful as it is, this is not so. Museums are places for the dead and the forgotten. Old Louisville is neither. It is alive, and I was part of the life, and the life will exist in my memory forever. What is to be done? For me nothing but the solemn prayer that as the residents of Old Louisville die, a more welcoming and friendly community will replace them. A community that builds bridges with its student community and welcomes them. A community that doesn't fight the life with ordinance, zoning, and noise complaints, a community that wants the next 100 years to have the life of previous 100, if not more.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Thursday, July 31, 2003
12:49 AM

Bars,who needs a bar to meet people? Here is a list of ways to meet people in OldLouisville. School,church,bicycle,tenis,walk a dog,go to meetings,plays,centeral park clean up,cut your grass with a push mower, the old kind,join a garden club,volunteer for garden tour or house tour,pick up litter, walk, tell someone while you are out walking your garden looks nice,or your house looks nice. You just might find yourself having a conversation. One that is meaningful. One that is not filled with bad judgement like the ones that come from things that alter our minds. Many people have gone back to school not only to learn something, but they want to also be a part of a group. That is only a human instinct. One that we all have.


Posted by a worker in Old Louisville
Wednesday, July 30, 2003
10:20 PM

Some people are out with their friends from out of town,work or school. We do not want people to think we are into ourselves. Do people think this same way if many people are in a food place but the people at seperate tables are not talking to each other. You will never find your life in a bar. People that are out having drinks for the most part had a life with friends first. Drinks will only make you think people like you. Some of them are looking for a good drunk to roll. Steel your credit cards and things while you pass out. I feel sorry for anyone that wants that. If nothing else get you a friend at work or school that will get you home alive. You will never find your life in a bottle.


Posted by a visitor to Old Louisville
Wednesday, July 30, 2003
09:29 PM

And by the way i am 55 years old 6'7" bald and 377 pounds. But come to think about it I might scare em into talkin to me. Yep I am the King Kong of computer geek. How bout that Brown Sugar be good in ma coffee//


Posted by a visitor to Old Louisville
Wednesday, July 30, 2003
09:15 PM

Hi,I am from Chicago. Just wanted to say why are you people saying anything bad about any bar you have. I have been to many of your bars,not all of them are grand but hey,you have some to go to. You want to go to a snob bar come to Chicago where you aint seen nothin but snobs. Enjoy what you got!!!! I come all the way from Chicago just to go to to your places. I have yet to find anyone I could not talk to. I learned you have to say something to the other person first if you want them to talk to you.


Posted by a Louisville resident
Wednesday, July 30, 2003
09:02 PM

To the last post i agree. Did you notice the last recent drug bust was in the el-E-gont . E as in the EAST end. Tisk-Tisk........


Posted by a Louisville resident
Wednesday, July 30, 2003
08:59 PM

The Mag Bar is a poseur place, period. I don't have to besmirch any minority or preference group to make that case. The drinks cost too much (as they do at most bars) and the company is wrapped up in itself. Been there; will not be back again. I am waiting for that little spot on Broadway right between Second and Third to become trendy. It is quirky, dirty and dark enough to be the next Mag Bar. The parking situation is better overall.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Wednesday, July 30, 2003
07:36 PM

I think it is sort of a strange thing. I lived in Indiana in the suberbs most of my life. I then later moved to the big City of Louisville and found many people said you should have never moved there. It is full of drug dealers and such. Today I can say that is but a myth after living downtown for may years. The fact is when I lived in Indiana in the 60's and 70's the drug dealer was a 15 year old boy that lived up the street from me. He was white, his dad was a boyscout leader.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Tuesday, July 29, 2003
06:22 PM

After speeking with the owner of the M.B. we have come to a conclusion to the problem. It is as simple as to the old crowd vs the new. Sort of like when the Old people in Old Louisville have a new neighbor. Neither are bad people it is just the rules of conduct have changed. A few years ago when th M.B. served food it was not unusual to see a nun or priest having a bowl of soup at the bar. The grade school is just across the street.


Posted by a Louisville resident
Tuesday, July 29, 2003
02:17 PM

I noticed a post about people doing things against nature. I found that many people in Old Louisville are doing a lot of good for nature. The garden tour was wonderful! After viewing the website http://www.kywatersheds.org i realized that all of us are guilty of crimes against nature. Keep up the good work Old Louisville!


Posted by a worker in Old Louisville
Tuesday, July 29, 2003
01:19 PM

Since this site is about renovation we should thank the M.B. owner for the new roof , paint Job, rear deck , windows etc. thank you for the investment in an Old Louisville building.


Posted by a worker in Old Louisville
Tuesday, July 29, 2003
01:14 PM

Must not be that bad i do not see any going out of business signs there.


Posted by a Louisville resident
Tuesday, July 29, 2003
12:56 PM

Seems to me that if all these people that have first hand experience at the mag bar and have been part of the crowd there why are they saying the people there are dirty criminals when they are in fact aparently the ones in there. Sounds like to me they are only condeming themselves. Thats stupid for people that are computer geeks.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Tuesday, July 29, 2003
12:44 PM

Some do not like some places in Old Louisville. Some do! Add the # of feed back forms compare that to 17,000 people living in Old Louisville. Then compare that to the other several thousand that visit Old Louisville every day. The 300,000 that visit the art show every year. There is good and bad in all neighborhoods. Even the best of them! Old Louisville will outlast all of us. We in less than 100 years will be but a memory.............


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Tuesday, July 29, 2003
12:23 PM

The building has also been renovated and looks nice again with some seemingly nice tenants...........


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Tuesday, July 29, 2003
12:20 PM

Brown Sugar was removed from the building at 3rd and Mag. The building has new owners for everyones info.


Posted by a former Old Louisville resident
Leviticus 20:13
Tuesday, July 29, 2003
11:39 AM

FYI...the MAG BAR does suck. The people there are rude, dirty, and there are lots of "friends of Dorothy" (i.e. criminals against nature). But you might catch a glipse of "Brown Sugar", a fixture of the community according to a previous post on this board! If you are looking for a good bar in Old Louisville hit the Granny on 3rd and Gaulbert.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Tuesday, July 29, 2003
06:51 AM

After you have typed in what you would like to learn about,click on google search. You can learn about almost anything .


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Monday, July 28, 2003
07:26 PM

Many people post things here because it is their first time using a computer. For first time computer users you can get information on just about anything by typing in words like renovation,historic,carpentry in the box at the bottom of the page next to the word Google at this website.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Monday, July 28, 2003
05:00 PM

City Girl, I agree! However if you think this is bad you should go to some of the meetings. Only took 35 years to get the ninth street extention . This is calm compared to the Old Louisville of the 70's and 80's.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
City Girl
Monday, July 28, 2003
04:39 PM

Why use this as a place to argue? Why use it as a place to get out your mis-placed anger? Bar-hopper, computer-geek, intelligent individual, self-righteous word-smith, educated monkley, Old Louisville-lover/ hater, college student or grad or non-college genius, association member, whoever you may be- please, for the love of- well, whatever you love, get a LIFE. There are MANY boards out there for Louisville, WHY jump on a primarily event-, preservation-, and historically-driven website to generate such negativity on a very PERSONAL level? This is a MESSAGE BOARD, not email! Everyone is different, everyone has an opinion, and that's what makes things cool and interesting, but when it gets so rediculous and out of control like this, all I can think of is being in the 4th grade. Do you really think your issues will be resolved through this message board? COME ON, if you need to be angry, see a doctor for help. If you need to feel valued for your overly wordly and drama-filled writing, get into marketing or write a book. If you have something interesting to note on Louisville, or Kentucky, or something you wish to warn others about or speak out on, and you can do it with class and intelligence then COME FORTH by all means, but if you're bored or are looking for a place to vent, why not call a friend or someone you know who will care about what you have to say, rather than these folks who are simply looking for brief and informative documentation on this area of the city?? Oh well, guess I am contributing to the mess by adding this email, but the entire thing is just SAD because this could be a great channel for info., and right now it's like a play-pen...


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Monday, July 28, 2003
12:28 AM

What should be done to people that distroy buildings in Old Louisville????? http://www.metaphor.dk/guillotine/Pages/Guillot.html


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Sunday, July 27, 2003
09:38 PM

The work of the Victorian era is far from over. It has only entered a new century!


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Sunday, July 27, 2003
09:00 PM

Are there Ghost in Louisville????? http://www.members.tripod.com/lindaluelinn/


Posted by a Louisville resident
Sunday, July 27, 2003
08:29 PM

How educated are these people in Old Louisville???? http://www.neighborhoodlink.com go to zip code 40208. Then click on the O.L.N.C.


Posted by a Louisville resident
Sunday, July 27, 2003
08:06 PM

Want some sewage to talk about. see:kywatersheds.org......... You drink it every day


Posted by a Louisville resident
Sunday, July 27, 2003
05:36 PM

Sure would be nice if the more educated people would look up the word evolution at google.com or any search engine. How man has evolved over time. But to an extent some still write and draw on cave walls . If you compare education stats in other states to Kentucky ,we still have a cave man mentality. I hope that is changing for some. Only time will tell. Old Louisville looks like will out last our stupid ways. I too have a lot to learn.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Sunday, July 27, 2003
05:13 PM

Yes if your apartment has heat included there is a good chance your rent will go up. Some friends of mine were renting a house on third street. They had to move because within 10 years their rent went from 350.00 per month to 1150.00 per month for the same house. That did not include utilities. The thing is the rental company had no problem renting it at the higher price.


Posted by a Louisville resident
Sunday, July 27, 2003
04:54 PM

I know the buildings are large in Old Louisville. My question is will the rents be increasing even more since the price of natural gas might be going up 40-60 %? I was thinking about moving there. I am a student but I do not know if I can manage rent and high utilities.


Sunday, July 27, 2003
03:48 PM

outwit me silence me use profuse language think yourself clever crafty sentence langauge self-superior attitude obfuscate wordy tomes their failures in complex sentence structure obfuscated by your clever wordiness you are a bigot liberal having lived off daddy's dime snobby enclave for the intelligentsia truly impoverished some ungrateful sucker like you bigots I despise people oblivious to the real world --------------------------------------------------------- To the author of the email that contained these and other overwrought schizo-paranoid rantings: Take your medication.


Posted by a Louisville resident
Sunday, July 27, 2003
02:19 PM

pater (Monday, April 28, 2003 11:49 PM) spelled bigot with two g's. LMAO


Sunday, July 27, 2003
02:13 PM

Yahoo must be down.


Saturday, July 26, 2003
11:28 PM

P.S. Old Louisville has also lived through many times of human disease. Can you name them???? Today it is herpes and aids. Old Louisville will teach generations to come. In the next 100 years we will not be here to teach them. Only the knowledge of the past can. Places like Old Louisville will tell a story of long ago.


Saturday, July 26, 2003
11:08 PM

I have a question? I saw on one of your post that a person called a bar stupid. How can a bar be stupid if it is a building. People that go to this bar also for the most part go to college. They are also educated to the fact if they fight at the bar they will go to jail. Smart people would rather not because they have to go to work to pay their rent or condo payment of 500.00 to 3,000.00 per month. But I guess lack of education has not yet enterd the brain of some. Where are the parents of these poor little brainless people? If they are like my parents were, they too were brainless. Brain dead monkeys with no clue to evolution. If people 100 years ago were smart enough to build Old Louisville do you think the people who live today would rather we not know that people that lived 100 years ago were smarter than us.


Saturday, July 26, 2003
10:18 PM

Old Louisville , A place in time. Old Louisville was here to see the horse,the car,the airplane, the birth of the lightbulb,telephone,and computer. Many wars,storms,floods and other disasters. To forget history is to forget where we came from,to forget where we are going and why. The loss of places like Old Louisville would be a tragedy to the next generation that will ask the same questions. Who am I? Where do I belong?


Posted by a worker in Old Louisville
Saturday, July 26, 2003
09:45 PM

Lordy Lordy Lordy. Hal-a-lu-ya Hal-a-lu ya. Da Monkey be a usin a computer rather than da fist. Da Lord be a makin da miracle of knowledge in da head of da stupid man. Hal-a-lu-ya. Thank the Lord like in da wiz of oz da day of da stupid bi-ch be dead. I do da - to not offend anybody. Thank you Old Louisville for takin da stupid from da head. God bless ya. I am a poor man with a computer. Thank you for your website. Praise the lord for people with brains.


Posted by a visitor to Old Louisville
Saturday, July 26, 2003
09:04 PM

I will be back to see your art fair! It is sure nice to see Kentucky has so many websites.


Posted by a Louisville resident
Saturday, July 26, 2003
08:20 PM

Sorry there should be their. I am a former redneck please forgive me. I am still in college . Learning about people that 2,000 years ago were smarter than me. O well I was born in Kentucky. Kentucky fried that is. Ya'll come back now ya heya.


Posted by a Louisville resident
Saturday, July 26, 2003
08:12 PM

Enjoyed your site! There is still hope in Kentucky. Red Neck bar goes Computer geek hang out.......... Sounds like things movies are made of....... There is still hope for rednecks. They are a dying breed in Kentucky............ There places of worship around the convention center are only but a memory.................


Saturday, July 26, 2003
07:58 PM

Ollie Lou ........ Will you Marry me ???????????????


Posted by a former Old Louisville resident
Saturday, July 26, 2003
07:14 PM

Some of your postings sounds like mad realistate people trying to stop people from moving to your area. That was an old trick they used to get people to move to those cracker box houses out in the burbs. You know the houses with plastic siding and pine 2x4 framing that termites enjoy......... Everytime I drive in the burbs if there has been a big gust of wind,you can see the plastic siding blowing in the wind. Sure wish I could move back there. Is it true that codos there are selling for $250,000 ?????


Posted by a visitor to Old Louisville
Saturday, July 26, 2003
06:44 PM

Does the Mag Bar have Wi-Fi ?????? My friends and I are looking for a place to hang out have drinks and chat with computer people.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Saturday, July 26, 2003
06:35 PM

Wow! This is too cool..... I had no idea so many people in Old Louisville had computers. Seems like everybody that goes to the Mag Bar are computer literate. When I was going to that place in the 1980's you could get a drink and a burger there, but no one ever talked about computers. Wow have times changed. Who ever thought that place would turn out to be a computer peoples hang out. Far cry from the old days... Old Louisville by the way of your visitor count must have more computers than anywhere in Kentucky, since there are only about 17,000 or less that actually live there.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Saturday, July 26, 2003
03:47 PM

I am glad I live in Kentucky. Such an educated place. Good thing property values are on the rise. Keeps places like Old Louisville out of reach for those who forgot to go and get an education. Those who would rather slum a grand place.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Kill the Yuppies
stomponscum@yahoo/com
Saturday, July 26, 2003
01:16 PM

Yeah, the Mag Bar is ****** stupid, they're a bunch of redneck **** faces, they can't fight one on one or with out weapons, babies....

(*** edited...the point, whatever it is, gets across without the extra words...and also we don't want the site to be blocked from people with rsac filters.  Anyway, looks like time for webmaster to go back and check the place out again.  Some comments here are nothing like the memories of the rather gentle place we've seen in the recent past, where the only 'weapon' seemed to be in conversation ---webmaster).


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
City Girl
Friday, July 25, 2003
04:43 PM

Wow- it's kind of sad that this site is being used as a venue to argue and vent about such mediocre and senseless topics. Anyhoo- I am writing to say that after living in Old Louisville since last October- I'm in love! What a diverse and interesting place to come "home" to :-) This site is SUCH an excellent wealth of information and news on Old Louisville. Kudos on creating and maintaining such a great reference- for locals and visitors alike :-)


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Thursday, July 24, 2003
11:55 PM

We sometimes forget the ground we stand on is many millions of years old. Many buildings in Old Louisville are 100 years or less. Old Louisville , as well as the city of Louisville. Are but babies, waiting to be born. 100 years in the real world of the planet is but a spot in time. Now is our time . Our spot ! How will we be remembered ? We are but dust in the wind of time. How we will be remembered is up to us....... No one will remember who sat on the bar stool. You see in the future, the bar stool you sat on will no longer be there. Old Louisville was here long before the bar stool you sat in. To see those who lived in the past, see what they were made of. You only need to walk the streets and see the buildings of a grand group better known as the victorians.


Posted by a former Old Louisville resident
Monday, July 21, 2003
02:18 PM

How do I find an old year book from Cochran Elementray School dating back from 1993-1994?


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Mark Chasteen
blowmejason@yahoo.com
Saturday, July 12, 2003
01:12 PM

I'd like to foster the question to "Jason": If what you accuse is true, wouldn't the bar have gone out of business a long time ago? The bartenders there have been working at that place for nearly a decade. You'd think something like that would cut into the bottom-line. The owner would NOT keep running that place if it wasn't making a good profit (good enough for him to purchase another bar), The Mag has some of the lowest drink prices in town, so they're not making it all back when you get charged. Truth of the matter is that you're spewing some jealous bullshit because somebody got a free drink and you got snubbed. So, before you start lobbing anonymous accusations like the coward you are, perhaps you should get your facts straight. I urge you to take it up with the owner and the bartenders you're accusing or shut your snobby ass up and go back to Teddy Bear's.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
JohnnyB
Saturday, July 12, 2003
01:05 PM

Wow. I have to wonder if this intelligent, obviously superior specimen of humanity speaks English as his first language, because he writes like a retard on ether. Sounds like Jason ain't wanted there. I'm sure the Tavern would be happy to pour him a nice intelligent drink. Maybe he should report this shocking behavior to the Department of Bartender Standards, they can pull the barkeep's union cards and blacklist them. Drinking on the job! My stars! Notify the constabulary post haste! Seems to me if the tip jar is full, most folks have no problem with the demeanor of the bartenders. Sounds to me like this guy is casing the joint too. Bold statements from another anonymous internet nebbish. I appluad you Jason, defender of the little man's right to be accepted instantly with open arms, without question, into a peer group. I feel so ashamed of my elitist ways, I now go to hang myself in the shower. One question, however, why would an enlightened man like Jason want to be part of such a corrupt, closed group of folks? I'm sure it's a mystery that will live on in our minds for generations to come. In closing, suck it.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
"Jason" again
Saturday, July 12, 2003
03:24 AM

Mr. Anon, you're missing my main point. In short simple sentences now so you will understand: All I asked is to be served. I love the Mag Bar too. All else is peripheral. Who cares about popularity? Sometimes I just want a drink. If the bartenders could find the time to spend a few minutes serving the paying customers instead of spending all their time passing out the free drinks, there would not have been a problem for me. End of short simple sentences.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Jason (You think I'd leave my real name?)
Saturday, July 12, 2003
03:05 AM

Grapes? Frankly, to tell the "Truth", I don't particularly care for grapes. However, "Truth" is something that is probably not a concern for you since your remarks have been the farthest thing from it. I know that it would be a great thrill for you, since you had the audacity to post a reply full of lies, maybe to show heroism and think that you sent me out of that bar spilling tears and a rage filled hate. But you obviously have no idea of my identity as we have never spoken a word to one another. Remember, I belong to the paying crowd. I am sorry that we have never met. Are you the one passing out the free drinks, or taking tip jar money that should belong to the cash register? Or are you the one that swallows the free drinks nightly? Wait, that wouldn't help because so many are guilty of that. I don't know about you but the Internet is the last place I would seek revenge from, if that was what I was after. It is obvious that your post is just some cheap shot to obtain approval for the dishonest employee activities that are going on in the establishment. Grapes? On second thought, I can stomach grapes to some extent, they are much better than the fruits and nuts at the Mag Bar! Don't you see the humor in any of this?


Posted by a visitor to Old Louisville
Mr. Anon
Saturday, July 12, 2003
02:36 AM

News Flash!!! Jason, the universe does not revolve around you. Everybody don't rush up to be your friend at a bar? Boo f***ing hoo. Get a life. Maybe you'll make some friends then. I've been goint to Mag Bar for years and have never had anything but a good time there and have made many new friends there. Maybe you should lower yourself to our pathetic drunk moronic "level" and actually, I don't know, maybe, bother to talk to somebody, anybody, there instead of crying in the corner that you're not MR. POPULARITY and that nobody is bowing to welcome you, the mighty intellect, into the puny Mag Bar "ultracool" club. Gee, it's late, guess I'll go back to the cave and watch some WWF Smackdown on my VCR.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Matt Loomis
loomismaximus@insanekungfu.com
Friday, July 11, 2003
07:11 PM

Jason, if I am reading this correctly, you are mad because the people at the Magnolia Bar and Grill won't play with you. This is surely cause for outrage on your part, as I am sure our refusal to make you Belle of the Ball is a violation of some Constitutional provision. I have to ask, why do you want to hang out with a bunch of drunks morons who can't pick up on things, as you so succinctly put it? This is beyond me, but someone with your obvious intellectual superiority might be able to clarify it for me. I might also point out that people who demand preferential, nay, deferential treatment based on their own assesment of their intelligence aren't really welcome anywhere, those people are traditionally called "snobs" or perhaps "assholes". Perhaps you should convene a blue-ribbon panel to make sure your Jason-ness is universally appreciated. I suggest you petition the UN, as this is a much larger issue than your approval in the United States. Then again, getting slammed on the internet is quite flattering. In fact, I am having a party on Saturday night, and since you aren't invited I was wondering if you could write some angry rhetoric about that so I can put it on my fliers next year. I'm glad you find us important enough to label. Keep up the good work. I'll be at "the corner" if you want to drop off the literature later. Please, keep it short, I plan on doing a quarter-page flier and I'd hate to have illegible copy. Have a lovely evening!


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Truth
Friday, July 11, 2003
06:17 PM

I happen to know "Jason", the whiner who spilt his sour grapes all over the corner of 2nd and Magnolia, personally. He always feels the need to be the "queen" at every party and was snubbed after one of the bartenders rebuffed his cheap advances. Dandy fop that "Jason" is, he threw a complete hissy and was ridiculed by nearly everyone in earshot. Tears of rejection and humiliation welled in his eyes as he fled the mocking while swearing to post his disdain on the internet within moments. If "Jason" were any more of an attention whore, the crack addicted hookers of the 3rd Street dope stroll would gather donations and buy him a puppy.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Friday, July 04, 2003
05:20 PM

To the "Griper Whining" about the "Whiner Whining": I know the feedback form is open to whatever you want to post. However, could you please be considerate enough to accept the views of others, even if you do not agree and be mature enough not to have to comment with nonsense. If someone posts something you do not think is right or you don't agree, post your reasons, that would do a lot more good than trying to fight with everyone that posts, that is why they call it feedback. In other words, attack the subject, not the person. With that said, I think we all have lifes. By telling us to stay away from you and the local bars, well, there is your nonsense.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Griper Whining
Friday, July 04, 2003
03:29 PM

To the "Whiner Whining": I love Old Louisville, I simply reserve the right to NOT like every resident. Diversity is simply, well, diversity. It doesn't mean we all have to get along on everything. Many positive things are happening in this neighborhood and it will take time and work to restore not only the old homes, but the community spirit. However, attacking one group of people, using the mentally ill as examples, poking fun at residents trying to improve the community, complaining about local bars - HEY - get a life. As far as I am concerned everything the Whiners are complaining about is what gives Old Louisville its strength, its "character". If you don't like someone here - don't talk to them. If the mentally ill scare you - stay away from them. If you don't like how a guy runs his bar - don't go in there.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Anonymous
Thursday, July 03, 2003
02:36 PM

wow! first there are whiners griping. then gripers whining...about the whiners. me, i'm just a whiner whining about the gripers griping.  ;-)  by the way, if you think you or the neighborhood needs help, the monthly gripers/whiners anonymous meetings are held at the old louisville information center concurrently with the olnc general meetings...another great forum to bring up any legitimate problems, and maybe help out with the solutions.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Bill
Thursday, July 03, 2003
01:18 PM

Is it just me or has the Feedback page been kidnapped by "Whiners Anonymous". Whoever these guys are, they need to get on with their life. Three pieces of advice from an old guy: You are not the center of the universe; get into some serious therapy, and quit driveling all over what used to be, a happy and informative Web site; get the help in another state.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Jason
Tuesday, June 17, 2003
04:10 AM

Sitting quietly on the corner of Magnolia and Second, The Magnolia Street Bar, you will find this quiet from the outside friendly-type building. Inside, you’re surrounded by loud music pumping from the jukebox, and friendly people surrounding the bar. However, don’t expect to find yourself emerged within conversation by the bartenders. Their willingness to serve you is only part of the job description. Only a select few get privileged treatment and get to enjoy what us mere onlookers like to call “The Corner.” Here you are surrounded in luxury by the sparkling wine and alcoholic contained beverages as you are poured free drinks until you either retire or they close. Closing time brings down the lights, to us outsiders, newcomers and socially different as the lights go down, the drinks stop there. However, if you can’t see in the darkness, deception despairs a flow of alcohol being heard pouring from the elite corner. Occasionally, even the bartenders get surrounded by the excitement, and you will make out the swing of the shot glass to their mouths as they cheer on their friends and freebie guests of the evening. Don’t expect the ring of the cash register to interrupt your conversation as you enjoy your last few sips, which only happens occasionally to the unknown groups. Deception lies within the old saying, “The hand is quicker than the eye” as the size of the tip jar will amaze you by the rapid increasing in size as the night progresses. The old “Now you see it, Now you don’t” routine is only a fair understanding of the operations that are played behind the bar. The operation of fair trade drinks are not the only thing being poured behind the counter, as one bartender pats on the back of another not only in good spirit but as a sign of deception from the customer and most importantly, the owner of the establishment. Carelessness and lack of concern from the owner will let this game of deception continue until more than an ordinary customer catches on to the routine and actually cares. Only concerned patrons and mistreated guests of the Magnolia Bar know the facts of which they are surrounded by. However, lack of concern from the owner makes any customer turn a “blind eye” to the perceived deception. Customers, who witness this charade should not feel as a guilty participant to the act as the bar separates the two classes. However, it is your tip money that is being segregated amongst the somewhat “sober” bartenders. It takes more than a friendly gesture, or a Hamilton waved in the bartenders face for acknowledgement that you have desires yet unfulfilled. They are too blindsided by their so-called friends to acknowledge your existence. Please don’t take my hounding as jealousy, because along with a few friends, I am sure if you were being poured five to ten dollar freebies you would not have a problem with becoming a “friend” of the bartends tab. The friendly atmosphere and location is what draws the crowd, not the service, I assume. I attend with already excellent company and will continue going. We pass the buck for the alcohol which comes by occasionally and enjoy the company of others. However, the concern of the tip lying on the bar as it’s picked up and placed in its “unknown” location brings concern. Maybe if the bartenders treated each other fairly I would as well turn a “blind eye” to the madness that is happening at Magnolia Bar. (This is written by someone who enjoys being taken to the Magnolia Bar but who wished the bartenders were a little more compassionate and realized some intelligent people walk into their establishment, not just drunks and morons that can’t count or pick up on things)


Posted by a former Old Louisville resident
pater
Monday, April 28, 2003
11:49 PM

To the anonmyous Louisville resident: Your comments in both of your last posts exemplify to a great extent the bigotry I have previously pointed out. You may try to scathe me or outwit me. You may attempt to silence me by using profuse language. You may think yourself clever by the use of your crafty sentence langauge. The truth is, you are a bigot. Furthermore, it is my guess that you are most likely either a graduate student who wants to be an academic, a public school teacher, or a college professor (my guess is that you are most likely the latter). Why do I guess this: because you try to use complex langauge to reinforce the self-superior attitude you hold so dear, and to obfuscate the fact that you have nothing of substance to contribute to the argument. Our libraries are unfortunately full of wordy tomes that say nothing because of authors like you. These authors want everyone to know how intelligent they are but they have nothing to say, so they had their failures in complex sentence structure, intending theri final work to be so complex as to be misunderstood. The hope is that when people encounter this "complex" material that they will immediately become discouraged from reading it and become conviceted of the belief that the author must be an expert on the subject and that the work is important. Of course this depends on the fact that you have contributed nothing of significance being obfuscated by your clever wordiness and sentence structure. How do I know that you are a bigot you ask? You want to attack the other person and express your own ideas while appealing to an authority to censor the comments of your opponent in order to avoid a response. Whom...I believe liberal is another description for you. Please do not invoke the real world excuse again. Do you have any earthly idea of just who it is that populates public universities these days? Most are people who left high school and entered the real world. They were arresting criminals, digging ditches, building highways, sleeping in foxholes, defending your freedoms at the end of a barrel. Just what do you know about the real world, having lived off daddy's dime as he paid your way through school, until such time as you secured a job in the "real world" of academia, the public schools, or government service, and bought your house in some snobby enclave for the intelligentsia, people all of like minds. When have you faced the real world? When have you been truly impoverished, using every last dime you had to go to school so that you could provide a better life for your children, who you also have to feed, clothe, house, and transport to their own schools? Have you ever had to sit in a ditch, facing an enemy whose only goal is to take your life before you take his, all for the benefit of some ungrateful sucker like you back home? I cannot stand biggots. I despise people who have nothing of real value to say. I will tolerate you though, because I have risked my life so that you can be as oblivious to the real world as you wish.


Posted by a Louisville resident
Friday, April 18, 2003
02:33 PM

The feedback page here is not, for this reader and visitor to the site, the proper venue for flame wars. Personal invective has no place here. Please, Webmaster, groom these missives and retire with extreme prejudice the ones that qualify as nothing more than tit-for-tat between two parties trying to use your site to salvage their own fragile sense of honor. And to the worst offender: Nobody cares about your feelings; you have gone on about them for far too long. It is past time for you to stand down and stop making a fool of yourself in front of a crowd, however passionate you may become over the possibility of being one-upped in a public forum. When you post here, that is simply the chance you take. Get over it.


Posted by a former Old Louisville resident
Dirk Diggler
Friday, April 11, 2003
12:17 AM

This is in response to the anonymous message dated Friday, March 28, 2003. First, your blatant lack of a logical argument is surpassed only by your bad grammar, spelling, and misuse of several words. What did I do to support your ghetto? I paid rent for several years there. Volunteers or not, take away the rent paying students and your precious Victorian bastion of liberal xenophobes is razed to the ground. Trust me, fraternaty (sic) people would not want to be near you either. But, alas, 85% of leadership positions in the United States are held by fraternity or sorority members. So hate us all you want, odds are you probably already work for one of us, or for the subsidiary of a company ran by us. Before you respond, buy a dictionary, or use spell-check. Or, if you can't see through the haze of the crack pipe smoke, don't respond at all. For the record this "ever so bright college kid is out in the real world" and doing quite well for himself. Perhaps you might try education for a change, it sure beats the ignorance that shines through your last posting.


Saturday, April 05, 2003
03:50 PM

Re: the tearing down of the so-called porno block (the city block bounded by 2nd and 3rd on the east and west, and jefferson and liberty on the north and south). These are decent old structures that have great historic presence and clinging smartness which has survived the ill-use to which they have been put for the last 30 years. But that ill-use is all anyone sees when they look at this block. (Recent memory is our only frame of reference, the long view be damned.) We are going ahead with a glass and steel megalith that feels, judging from the architect's renderings, like a cookie-cutter all-that-money-can-buy Vegas hotel from the 70s. So here we go again. Down comes our heritage, up goes something to sell people in it's place. New and shiney things lack character. They lack resonance. They are, even directly out of the box, doomed objects, bound to be rejected in THEIR time, that interim period when their newness has worn off, but they are not yet old enough to be classic. In this vulnerable phase, which can lasts for decades, they are merely frumpy, dated, "70s-looking" -- pick your own adjective. And they ARE eyesores. The Louisville skyline is at least 50% full of this kind of tacky nouveau "hey-look-mom-i'm-an-architect!" garbage now. In another 20 years, give or take, we will look out on a cityscape of developer/businessman "naked power and greed" architecture. ("I don't know architecture, but I know what I want. BUILD IT MY WAY!! WHAT DO YOU THINK I'M PAYING YOU FOR!??") Gone will be the last traces of the elegance, the metaphor above and beyond raw material, the historic reference that outlives the trend because it RESONATES in the human memory. The loss of every old building in Louisville-- whether or not it is one of the 'fashionable cause' structures-- is a true tragedy.


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Friday, March 28, 2003
02:05 PM

I love living in Old Louisville and all the varieties of people in the neighborhood...perhaps these ever so bright "college kids" should get out in the real world..well I am glad you are in Audoban Park now. I really would want you in my neighborhood with your attitude. What have you ever done to improve the nieghborhood? Did you attend meetings, help pick up litter, try to meet the nighbors that make Old Louisville their home and not just a place to live while in school? Our neighborhood has HUNDREDS that volenteer time and work...without getting paid to make our neighborhood nice....you degree or your opinion is not validated...and I have a feeling you have never even been involved in any of the Associations or in any activities to promote our area...I would not want a fraternaty near me...I think that they are just another club to exclude people, and if you were following the rules etc...you would not have had any problems


gabe
gabebmoc@hotmail.com
Tuesday, March 11, 2003
04:06 PM

i have a postcard of city hall posted 1906 with a one cent stamp on it i would like to know the value of this.. please help


Posted by a former Old Louisville resident
Pater
Wednesday, February 12, 2003
05:42 PM

I once had the pleasure of living in Old Louisville and discovered that the biggest problem with the Old Louisville neighborhood was residents such as Mr. Gary Kleier. There is no questions that Old Louisville is hostile to college students. The organization goes out of its way to get into confrontations with college students. Need evidence? How many times has Old Louisville begun eviction proceedings against residents in the last eight years, asserting that their dwellings were fraternity houses? I know of at least five in the eight years since I first moved there, and I know that at least three of those were not fraternities. Old Louisville like the German Nazi's just suspected a bad element was among them and decided to holocaust them. Yes, Old Louisville is a great neighborhood if you are of the right element. Hookers are "fixtures" of the community, but the future leaders of Louisville have no business living among the fine people of Old Louisivlle while they are earning their education. Mr. Kleier, what happened to my constitutionally protected right to live basically where I want to live with whomever I wanted to live? Yes, check your case law, you cannot use zoning laws to discriminate against group living for half-way houses, mental institutions, or--fraternities, sororities, and other like-minded college students who want to live together--just like you cannot use zoning laws to discriminate againts religions, races, or nationalities. Whether you admit to it our not, Old Louisville is a bigotted community. When you finish with the college students, who are you going to kick out next--homosexuals, Muslims, single-moms? If college students are bad and confirmed prostitutes are fixtures of the community, how will you determine who is suitable material for your neighborhood?


Posted by a former Old Louisville resident
Dirk Diggler
Monday, February 10, 2003
04:00 PM

Mister Kleier seems to be one of those urban dwelling, bad spellers (my name is Diggler, with a 'L'), who resorts to argumentum ad hominem to prove his fallacious points. "If Mr. Digger (sic) had a run in with Mr. Fink, it was because Mr. Digger (sic) was doing something he should not have been." You're right. I was getting my degree while I was a resident in your anti-student ghetto. My mistake. Thanks for the accusation though. Do the car theives that roam the alleys get "run ins" from Herb or is they just petty players in your urban drama? I think you said it best when you said confirmed that a prostitute is, and I quote, "one of the fixtures of our community." Look at the bright side, I took the trouble to spell your name correctly and I don't simply refute your argument because of where you live or what you may have done. I refute your argument because your neighborhood is a ghetto! "Bobby is just plain uninformed" I read Bobby's comments and it looks like most of the things he is "uninformed" about were copied from this very site. But at least you took the trouble to spell his name correctly! Did you even read what he wrote? I lived in your Victorian DMZ from 1997-2001. So maybe I know a little more than you think. Twelve foot ceilings are nice and all, but I'll keep the piece of mind I get knowing I can safely walk to my car at night (which isn't parallel parked a mile away!) Thanks.


Posted by a former Old Louisville resident
C. Benedict
kyroadrunner920@aol.com
Thursday, February 06, 2003
12:44 PM

Great site! I'm looking for information about the old Milner Hotel (formerly known as Tyler Hotel). Can anyone give me the history? My grandfather lived there for years before he passed away. I have seen a couple of post cards of it but I thought I recalled the building being much higher. Just curious. Thanks!


doleout@insightbb.com
Tuesday, January 28, 2003
04:49 PM

Why was 5th street not included in this area? Was 5th street named something else at this time? I had immigrants from Germany who ran a Coffee House and Hotel on 5th. Street between Main St. and Water Street in 1836-?. What area would that have been at the time? I am trying to find a German Church in this area that would possibly have a church reqistry with information on homeland birthplaces. If anyone has any information that may be of use please message me at doleout@insightbb.com thank you.......Tony


Posted by an Old Louisville resident
Gary Kleier
gjkleier@netscape.net
Monday, January 27, 2003
03:18 PM

Darrell, I am really sorry you got the response you see posted on this web site. Mr. Digger appears to be one of our typical suburbanites that can’t stand to live in an urban atmosphere. Yes, we do have “Brown Sugar”. She is harmless, and one of the fixtures of our community. Herb Fink, on the other hand, is one of the hardest working individuals in this neighborhood. He has done more to stop those who would destroy the Victorian Homes than anyone in recent memory. He heads up the property improvement committee that has been the driving force in turning around blighted buildings. If Mr. Digger had a run in with Mr. Fink, it was because Mr. Digger was doing something he should not have been. Bobby is just plain uninformed. Yes, Old Louisville was rezoned in the early 80's in an attempt to stop serious destruction of the area. At the time, property owners of places like corner groceries could petition to have their places properly zoned. However, many people did not understand what was required, or they simply didn’t care. Yes, this caused a lot of places to be zoned in a way that caused problems. However, in 1999, the Mayor appointed a task force to study this problem and write a zoning ordinance to correct the situation. It took a year of work by the task force and another year to work it into law, but in November of 2002, the ordinance passed, and Old Louisville now has one of the most progressive zoning ordinances an historic district can have. For the first time, this city has a zoning ordinance that recognizes and protects both the historic and the urban character of Old Louisville. It encourages the use of the corner commercial establishments, and defines a commercial district that, by law, can not be turned into “suburbia”. It also protects the residential area by prohibiting houses from being turned into apartment buildings, and by making the historic guidelines a part of the zoning ordinance. Are the neighbors friendly? Ask the out of town family that just paid $500,000 for a house here because they found the people to be so friendly. Take a walk down Floral Terrace (a walking court off of 6th Street), sit by the fountain, and talk to any of the neighbors. Visit any of the 13 or 14 neighborhood associations and learn how they are working together to improve their area. But don’t take my word for it, or Bobby’s or Mr. Digger’s. Come and see for yourself. Spend a weekend in one of our 13 Bed & Breakfast Inns. Eat at some of our restaurants. Experience the St. James Art Show in October (one of the 3 largest in the US). Go on the Garden Tour in July. And don’t miss the Holiday House Tour in December. And if you want to really find out about our “xenophobic, stick-in-the-mud, dog walker”, give Herb a call. I am sure he will be glad to talk your ear off about the good things that are happening in Old Louisville. Gary J Kleier, AIA, AIC


Posted by a former Old Louisville resident
robert hayes
rhayes@datek.com
Friday, January 24, 2003
02:46 PM

i was very happy to find this site. i've been trying to unconver pics/info about the old neighborhood called "The Point" (River Road to the Flood Wall/Adams St. to Ohio St.) -- can anyone steer me toward this?? thank you


Posted by a former Old Louisville resident
Dirk Diggler
Wednesday, December 18, 2002
03:22 PM

How neighborly are the neighbors? Well between Herb Fink and Brown Sugar, I think you can find all sorts. The former being a xenophobic stick-in-the-mud dog-walker looking for college kids to kick out of his ghetto and the latter being a bleached blond brown skinned street-walker who wanders the old louisville streets looking for tricks and people to harass. If you want a nice neighborhood with nice people, try Audobon Park. It is a few miles south. It has beautiful homes that wont require hundreds of thousands in repairs and streets that wont leave you trembling on the walk from your parallel parking spot a mile away.


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